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I believe Yellowstone will erupt soon *Official thread*


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Post Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:28 am

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countryboy wrote:What, if anything, can we do about it if it does blow? Unless you have the resources of a government or corporation you are screwed.The best chance for human survival will be in the southern hemisphere, where the impact of such an event will be less severe and delayed.For those of us in the northern hemisphere the outlook is pretty bleak.Most of our preparations for Peak Oil and other events will be useless. This event is on a par with a large comet or asteriod strike...nowhere to run,nowhere to hide...just die!


This thread offers no solution, nor were there ever intentions to do so. It's just an observation of a guaranteed natural disaster with the opinion that it will happen soon. The human animal isn't really a great contributor to the worlds ecology anyway. Might just weed out the chaff, so to speak.

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Post Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:45 pm

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T-18 months...
I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope
For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love,
For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith
But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting.

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Post Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:07 pm

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T minus 17 months
I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope
For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love,
For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith
But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting.

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Post Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:03 am

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I've often heard it repeated that the whole area in and around the vast caldera is deforming and rising alarmingly (when compared to the surrounding lands) but I've had trouble finding the measurements and/or studies explicitly showing this.

Please know that I am not saying it's not true or disputing any person's belief in an impending eruption. But, does anyone have any links, names of studies, or names of researchers? I really do want to delve a little deeper. :geek: I also know that some areas of land are still "rising" (quebec) or "sinking" (midwest) after the last glacial period affected the crust/upper mantel so I'd like to learn more about the details in this particular area.

As to what look like harmonic tremors. My armchair based understanding is this: to see a steady constant thrum can mean that magma is possibly on the move but it doesn't necessarily mean it's going up. It can be moving out/down/away/draining/shifting. Nothing on this planet is static. Other data (like temp readings, deformation measurements, etc) are required to estimate direction, or if it is magma on the move and not something else. It can also be wind, road thrum, or sensor noise (which you'll see cleaned up ounce a sensor rig is serviced which will then reoccur again after a period of weeks to months later.) Sudden tremors can be bedrock settling, mining explosions, even construction or road activity. The area is crisscrossed with roads, tourist development/activity, and ongoing and extremely active geothermal activity, etc.

Relying on just the seismographs for a picture of the area (or any area) can be a bit misleading. There have been cases that planes, falling trees, and geothermal drilling have been recorded on the seismographs. That's all really cool but probably quite maddening for the people monitoring them. :lol: I've also read in vulcanologist literature that if something shows up on a single seismograph but doesn't show up on any of the others, especially one's relatively nearby, it often - but not always - indicates it to be external and unrelated noise of some kind.

I guess the working assumption for those who study this stuff is that due to the shear size of the chambers below the caldera that any movement of magma would show up on most, if not all, of the regional sensors. :? But then again, we have never monitored a caldera system of this size and makeup through to an active eruptive stage. Assumptions, data, and experience from "smaller" volcanoes might not carry over well to an entity the size of Yellowstone. :| Interesting times for sure.

And speaking of interesting, it would be very interesting to see what the GRACE project comes up with (releases :?: ) when it measures gravity anomalies in the caldera region over time. I'm not sure if the resolution is high enough, though it should be since it has recently measured changes in the mass of underground aquifer systems in India.
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Post Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:40 pm

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T-16 months.
I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope
For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love,
For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith
But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting.

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Post Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:34 pm

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T minus 15 months.
I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope
For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love,
For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith
But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting.

TS Eliot
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Post Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:08 pm

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roccman wrote:T minus 15 months.


It'll never happen. 12/21/2012 bats first.
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Post Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:09 pm

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T minus 14 months.
I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope
For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love,
For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith
But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting.

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Post Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:34 am

Re: I believe Yellowstone will erupt soon *Official thread*

The probability of Yellowstone properly erupting in our lifetimes is close to zero. It goes off once every 600,000 years or so, and yes I know it is overdue but "overdue" takes on a rather different meaning when you're talking about something that only happens once in 600,000 years. It's 70,000 years since any supervolcano went off.

I'm not exactly worried about this.

And if it did go off, it wouldn't just be the US that suffered. Most of the human race would perish within 2 years.
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Post Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:36 am

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UndercoverElephant wrote:I'm not exactly worried about this.



neither am I
I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope
For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love,
For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith
But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting.

TS Eliot
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